michaelsy Maybe the Navi Plugin is interesting for you. It has a very flexible approach:
I have looked at most of the listing and index plugins. Some of them do something right, others something else. Some of them work, some of them don't. Navi may yet be a possibility, but I ran into issues on Hogfather earlier on. Also, I'm approaching 100,000 pages, automagic would be preferable.
I have used the Pagetitle plugin for ages, although a slightly older version which works the way I need it to. I am using croissant to name my breadcrumbs differently from the Pagetitle as well. This should be default CMS behaviour. I'd even like to be able to set how the name shows up in QuickSearch, please let me know if you know a way!
One solution I tried (with Combo plugin for the Strap theme) was to have both of the pages made (start page inside and outside), set canonical URL to
/books instead of
/books/start and have /books redirect to
/books/start. But you can see how this creates redundant content.
Anyhow, if it is just me having issues with start pages, then I'll get by with my silly quirks and hacks. But if others have similar experiences, maybe they can chime in. Or hopefully a new perspective or solution. I guess I should have been more specific in what I want to achieve, instead of just asking how to do X.
Thanks for your input and feedback, though. Appreciated! 🙂