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prTester #1
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Subject: Inherited DokuWiki - not my first choice!!!
Hi,

I'm new to my company and enthusiastic about using the in-house wiki to capture some common knowledge. The in-house wiki is Doku and it was installed by someone no longer on staff. Everyone hates it and no one really gets it.

There was a previous wiki attempt that also fell flat so there is some resistance to trying a third.

So far, in spite of my past happy experiences with wiki, I'm really really struggling with this.

My current issues are that my Bold only produces highlight. I don't see any way to change my user password. I can't get a new section started with pages under it for my new initiative. I'm only able to add pages to an existing structure. I still can't figure out how to set up a template for my new section pages so that they all have the same logo at the top.

I've been reading the forum and the help pages and documentation for a week now, but aside from finally figuring out that deleting a page is as simple as emptying it and saving it, I've not had any other great insight.

If you have some very, very basic direction for someone who inherited and did not install this, I would be interested.

:)

tester
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turnermm (Moderator) #2
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My current issues are that my Bold only produces highlight. I don't see any way to change my user password. I can't get a new section started with pages under it for my new initiative. I'm only able to add pages to an existing structure. I still can't figure out how to set up a template for my new section pages so that they all have the same logo at the top.


Not sure what you mean by highlight, but that is a CSS issue and was probably setup that way by your previous maintainer.  See the template directory lib/tpl/<template_name> and check the css files for bold text.

For setting up a new "section" (or namesapce) template, see: http://www.dokuwiki.org/namespace_templates

To initialize a new namespace, just place its name in the url:  
http://your.domain/your_dokuwki/doku.php?id=new_section:newpage

Or create a link to the new page in another page:
[[new_section|new_page]]
and you will get a red link to that page which when you click on it will open the new page for editing.  Dokuwiki creates the new directory (namespace) for the page.

The page that is created has a '.txt' extension but you do not inlcude htat in the 'newpage" name, i.e. you use newpage and not newpage.txt when creating links.
Myron Turner
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Taggic (Moderator) #3
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Hi prTester,

there seem to be some emotions on your side and your situation may be challanging  ...

It looks like you are trying to solve all issues at once, to do it stepwise maybe better approach. You should ask your users what pain points currently exist and give them some different severities. That is focussing your work, delivers a continuity on progress you can report and finally improves user satisfaction due to they are part of the evolution.

Search the dokuwiki.org and forum in the event a hurdle is coming up.  I would recommend you to download http://www.dokuwiki.org/dokuwiki_on_a_stick, what is an offline DW version. We (not the forum) are using it as fall-back solution if Intranet access is not possible or testing issues (e.g. on travel, at customers site, for training purposes, testing new plugins, etc.). There you can do some practical excercises like testing features, plugins and your adaptations to the template you are using. If you tried but nothing of that helping you to proceed then raise a question and you will get the help.

you are welcome,
Taggic
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prTester #4
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Hi,

Thanks for the encouragement. Yep, you nailed it, I'm feeling frustrated! But I have made a commitment to making progress.

I'm checking out the dokuwiki on a stick. Looks interesting, might give me some insight on this.

As for the new sections, I'm not trying to achieve new sections on a page.

The situation I've inherited has an initial page with a Site Map section on one side. This makes for ease of navigation and I appreciate that.

There were already 3 main sections and if you are within one of them and create a new page it hangs from that section.

I want to create a new section for my new initiative with all of this new documentation. I'm being forced to put it under an existing section because I can't figure out how to create a new section.

Each "section" has a url like: http://internalIPaddress/sectionname:start

In each case "start" is literally what is there.

Each page beneath that section has a url like: http://internalIPaddress/sectionname:pagename

In these examples internalIPaddress, sectionname and pagename are substitutes.

If you know how to create a new "start" page for a section, or where I could look for that info, or what it is properly called so that I can search better,.... I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks for the feedback!

Tester
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turnermm (Moderator) #5
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If you know how to create a new "start" page for a section, or where I could look for that info, or what it is properly called so that I can search better,.... I'd really appreciate it.

As I pointed out earlier-to initialize a new namespace with a new start page:
http://your.domain/your_dokuwki/doku.…?id=new_section:st…
Myron Turner
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Taggic (Moderator) #6
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sectionname:start
-> the start.txt is always the start page of the namespace (your sectionname)

1. if it is a closed wiki you have to login with right permissions (e.g. as admin)

2. open the entry page of your wiki with editor and add [[new_section:start|Link Title]] => save it

3. the link title will be displayed in red due to the page does not exist, so click on the link and if you have propper permission you are asked to create the page

4. if you do so the editor will open where you can add a level 1 Headline and all the other text & syntax

5. save it and namespace also as start page are created

If you have access to the folders of the wiki (e.g. by FTP) you will see that you created a new folder namespace containing a file start.txt   (...\dokuwiki\data\pages\ new_section \ start.txt)

hope that helps you a bit. I prefer clustering the topics and creating a navigation. if you want to see an example then please visit: http://www.fristercons.de/fcon/
best regards
Taggic
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prTester #7
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Hi,

This helped a lot. In fact, it helped so much that I got busy rearranging the pages into the sections that I wanted.

Taggic, your site looks very clean. Nice template.

My primary misunderstanding arose from the term "namespace." I just didn't connect that to what I wanted to achieve. Now it's clear and I've moved ahead quite a bit.

My next challenges are Templates and changing my d^mn password.

I really do not see how to get at the current template so I even know where it is and what it contains. I think I would like to start by changing it a little, e.g. add the company logo. But ultimately I'd like to master it so that it contains all the functionality I want.

The password thing is frustrating to me. Just seems like it should be a no-brainer. I expect to access some kind of user page, link or dropdown that leads me to an old password/new password/confirm new password set of fields and Bingo! But I'm just not finding that.

Thank you for your help. This has moved me along to reviving this handy tool for our department.

Tester
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lupo49 (Moderator) #8
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Howto add the company logo instad of a text in the right upper corner is described on this page: https://www.dokuwiki.org/tips:image-in-the-upper-right-cor…

To change the password of a user, just log in with the the user credentials and click on "Update profile". If you are logged in as the Wiki-Administrator you could also do it in the "User Manager".
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prTester #9
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Hi,

I do not see any option as "Update Profile." That's what's puzzling me.

The other option User Manager gives me a User list table with User, Realname, Email and Groups as columns. Each row has a check box. The Action buttons to the table are Delete Selected and Reset Search Filter.

The table below that is for Add User.

I do not see any way to edit the users. I seem to be able to delete them and add them.

I don't even see the password setting in here.

Your input is appreciated.

Tester
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prTester #10
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Hi,

I looked at the code for putting an image in the template.

My problem is that I don't know how to get to/get into the template.

Tester
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lupo49 (Moderator) #11
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Quote by prTester:
I do not see any way to edit the users. I seem to be able to delete them and add them.

You have to click on the username. The details of the user will be displayes in the form which positioned below of the user list.

Quote by prTester:
My problem is that I don't know how to get to/get into the template.

Did you read this page? https://www.dokuwiki.org/tips:image-in-the-upper-right-cor…

Just open the file lib/tpl/<template>/main.php and change the lines according the page.
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prTester #12
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Yep, still don't know how to get to that.

You have to get to the file before you change the code.

After that, anyone in the world can copy/paste.

The page, while very interesting, offers absolutely no information to this newcomer on how to get to that.

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prTester #13
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Quote by lupo49 on 2011-08-15, 18:04:
You have to click on the username. The details of the user will be displayes in the form which positioned below of the user list.

Well, I reopened admin - I don't know if this varies from installation to installation or not, but I actually needed to click on an icon next to the username, this opened up that form you refer to.

Thanks for sending me back there. It really helped once I figured out the icon!

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