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topic: Find old pages, which were edited by me  in the forum: General Help and Support Features and Functionality
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ach (Administrator) #1
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I'd also find this feature very useful, although for different reasons.

I'm sure you could do something sophisticated with the changelog.
At the very least you could search for your username in those files.
topic: How to change the logo link title  in the forum: General Help and Support Templates and Layout
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I don't understand the question. Can you clarify please?
I'm confused because you are talking about the source code, so you will have the title right there.
And why do you want to change it?
topic: Spam Alerts  in the forum: Offtopic Forum Help
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As pop is reporting lots of spam, would it not make sense to give them admin permissions? Let me know if you're interested.
topic: Dokuwiki powered websites  in the forum: General Help and Support General Stuff
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Quote by StarArmy:
Quote by ach:
Are you?
Of course not. I'm not a coder.

That is pretty much irrelevant. There is a lot more to do on DokuWiki than just code.

Quote by StarArmy:
But the attitude that I see, which is essentially "if you don't contribute code, you don't matter"

Where did you see anyone say that or anything even remotely in that direction? (Apart from yourself, just now.)

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I think the real questions we should be asking is "what features and looks do 2019 users expect and desire in a new default style/template?" and how do we get there in 2020?

How do we get there is indeed the big question. Any ideas?
topic: Dokuwiki powered websites  in the forum: General Help and Support General Stuff
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Quote by StarArmy:
To summarize what I've seen hj is saying "Here's a direction I think Dokuwiki should go" and the response from the creators is essentially "We've decided that the direction we are going is nowhere."

I don't interpret hj's words like a "should" more like a "wish" and an observation.
I don't interpret anyone's response as saying a) anyone has decided anything and b) certainly not to "go nowhere".

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More and more, the impression I get is that Dokuwiki's golden age is over.

Yes, the golden age is definitely over. But DokuWiki is not dead yet and is probably going to stay alive for a while.
Our last HackFest was in 2015 and even then we knew things were slowing down. Here is a presentation Andi did back then to discuss this problem.

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the lead devs are here saying essentially if you want a change, you'll have to do it yourself

That has always been the case. That is the reality of Open Source projects. They live from participation from the community. But if there are not enough people who want to give back, that's a problem.

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we're no longer putting in any major effort

Are you?
topic: Dokuwiki powered websites  in the forum: General Help and Support General Stuff
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Quote by ach:
Another idea we had talked about was doing a showcase of "best templates" (and "best plugins"). Because this selection is bound to be biased, this was partly implemented by showing the popularity data and being able to sort by popularity.

Oh, and the sorting by compatibility (which roughly translates to when an extension has last been updated) and filtering out of extensions with security issues.
topic: Dokuwiki powered websites  in the forum: General Help and Support General Stuff
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Quote by hj:
One of the things I appreciate about dokuwiki is that the resource site, dokuwiki.org, doesn't throw away old code. Early templates, early plugins...they're all still there, available for those who want them.  Too many software sites these days hide their legacy releases in obscure archives, or simple don't mention them. So kudos to DW.

But the downside of this is there is little separation of the new, modern and fresh from the positively dusty and historic (and may not work!)  And the dokuwiki.org home page hasn't changed in....how many years?

I agree that especially old templates and plugins are quite harmful, notably those that don't work anymore and make people be frustrated and think DokuWiki itself is outdated.

We have discussed this before (can't find it right now). I don't think we should completely remove pages, but remove extensions' meta data, so they don't appear in the templates/plugins' page anymore.
The main problem is that no-one is doing that. This would be a good content-only project for someone to help out who isn't a developer.

Another idea we had talked about was doing a showcase of "best templates" (and "best plugins"). Because this selection is bound to be biased, this was partly implemented by showing the popularity data and being able to sort by popularity.
topic: Dokuwiki powered websites  in the forum: General Help and Support General Stuff
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Quote by cziehr:
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And why is the <?php not closed?

This is standard in DokuWiki-files.

This is standard in PHP. From the PHP documentation:

it is preferable to omit the PHP closing tag at the end of the file. This prevents accidental whitespace or new lines being added after the PHP closing tag, which may cause unwanted effects
topic: Dokuwiki powered websites  in the forum: General Help and Support General Stuff
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Quote by cziehr:
/* hide logo, usertools and search */
.headings.group, #dokuwiki__sitetools {
        height: 0px;
        visibility: hidden;
}


That's an ineffective way to hide the tools.
Use display: none; otherwise screen reader users and potentially search engines still have access to what's visibly hidden.
When you are hiding the tools via CSS either way it means that someone who is logged in cannot see the tools either. DokuWiki (if the template uses tpl_classes()) has a loggedIn class around most content which can be used to undo the hiding of the tools in that case.
The starter template and most templates that derive from it use the "hideTools" config option which completely removes the tools from the code when you're not logged in. That is the safer option.
topic: Dokuwiki powered websites  in the forum: General Help and Support General Stuff
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I disagree that most templates are for wikis. I do very much agree that most templates are not very modern.
I think that is a sign that DokuWiki (and wikis in general) is not as popular as it used to be.

Back in 2015 I tried to make a push for more modern DokuWiki templates and we had a whole campaign going about that. See Template Conversion. Although the result was a cool new modern template (writr) and a tutorial on how to convert WordPress themes to DokuWiki templates, it unfortunately did not lead to many more conversions and new modern templates.

Out of interest, what is it about the default template that you don't like or find "too much like a wiki" or not modern enough?
This post was edited on 2019-10-04, 01:12 by ach.
topic: Dokuwiki powered websites  in the forum: General Help and Support General Stuff
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most of the templates look like wikis

Most, yes, but not all of them. You can also navigate the templates by specific tags via the tag cloud at the top. You might think the "cms" tag would be a good one, but it actually isn't. "blog", "clean" and "minimal" seem to be better. I would advise to at least go through all the screenshots.
Personally, I quite like these templates for personal websites: ramtop, prsnl10, mnml-blog, taratasy, twentyfifteen, the aforementioned flat and (the outdated and maybe not functional) typo.
topic: Dokuwiki powered websites  in the forum: General Help and Support General Stuff
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DokuWiki has a lot of different templates to choose from. Those will change the way your website looks and behaves. There is bound to be a handful which meet most of your needs?
topic: Making a colored row to separate groups  in the forum: General Help and Support Syntax and Usage
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Just be aware that misusing table headers like that will make tables very difficult to read for screen reader users.
I would recommend to make separate tables instead. If you're concerned about different table widths, there are plugins which can help with that.
topic: New version on it's way  in the forum: Community dokuwiki.org
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See https://www.dokuwiki.org/faq:nextrelease
topic: Export DocuWiki to CHM  in the forum: General Help and Support General Stuff
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There are a couple of plugins which export to HTML. If you find another tool which converts those into CHM, you can use https://www.dokuwiki.org/plugin:siteexport or https://www.dokuwiki.org/plugin:nsexport (and probably some more).

Also relevant are other plugins which export into a different file format, like PDFs or ePubs. See https://www.dokuwiki.org/plugin:bookcreator
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