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Possibility for "good purpose only" contributions to DW? (a "holly", "generosity only" forge)
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Samana Johann #1
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Subject: Possibility for "good purpose only" contributions to DW? (a "holly", "generosity only" forge)
Yesterday having come across that DW was actually a "non-commercial" project, and since longer searching after "good purpose" undertakings, which are hard to find, my person thought of raising the question whether such a "forge" or integration would be possible.

Actually it would go beyond commercial but as marked "for good purpose only", which means not for harming, taking what ever life, taking what is not given, untruthful speech, violation in regard of sensual pleasure and intoxication that makes heedless.

Aware that what ever is dedicated toward a higher (heaven) and tended to liberation has a hard in the "reality" or common ways of the world, it is of course not the way for those just after gains in their scarifies.

How do you think about the possibilities for such since it is actually a one way course which does not circle back to the world, would in this way also not fall back to oneself harmful and straight lead to Unbound?

As someone living only on generosity of others, having goodness of others as only support, it is hard to find places and circumstances to place possible shares and of course often also not very welcome since it could disturb marked.

What do you think about such a field of merits? Would such have a place in your world, aside of the struggle between the 8 things the world is turning around (gain, lose, praise, blame, happiness, pain, honor, dishonor)?

It's clear that such a forge, if such is wished, would not "approved" feed back it's previous source, but run it's own course, feed as long as there is goodness which is not dedicated to bind to the world. And of course such gives no grounds for ones livelihood, something that one has to provide outside of it, independent.

(It should in no way be understood as a demand or claim, but simply encourage or inspire to alternative ways and they are of course, if proper done, never for anyone's disadvantages since always naturally do not "serve" a mass of people.)
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andi (Administrator) #2
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Sorry, I have a hard time parsing what you're asking here. From the post's subject, I am guessing you ask if there is a way for you to contribute to DokuWiki without violating your set of beliefs?

If that's the question, our usual answers on how you can contribute without coding are the following:

  • write documentation
  • create/triage/answer bug reports
  • help out in the forum
  • spread the word

If any of that is compatible with your life style, I don't know. But maybe I totally misunderstood your question anyway.
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Samana Johann #3
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Mr. Andreas,

Actually such is/would be not really possible (or always with certain disadvantages), because it can be used for almost everything, and the "energy" given that my person acts further, has been not dedicated for such: that means it would be corrupt used. In the case my person would be able to declare "only for good purposes and not for any kind of to world binding trade", i.e. virtuous, good intended use, such would be possible.

While the reasoning out of "desire" to stay on the marked, present, for (for example) going form no-commercial to commercial is total understandable form a common view, it cuts of "real generous" and contributions. As the step would go even further to "only good purposes", it works very hard against the flow and of cause it's a huge vision, not easy finding those seeing such as well.

To make it a little more understandable: Given there is somebody giving you a real free gift, owing actually to care best of it and make minimum equal or a better from it, and one would use it to give loans or to trade, thinking on certain personal objectives, it would have not be used equal or better, but falls back into normal trade, bind.

But my person does not like to burden to much with the topic at all.
This post was edited 2 times, last on 2019-04-06, 10:20 by Samana Johann.
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andi (Administrator) #4
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Sorry, I don't understand what you are asking then.
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ach (Administrator) #5
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I'm not sure, but from what I understand, you're asking if DokuWiki as a whole (or maybe just a plugin? or something else?) could have a license that would permit only "doing good things" with it?

Unfortunately, such a thing would be against the Open Source spirit (and license, legal implications, etc). The freedoms that Open Source gives includes the freedom to "do evil" or anything else, otherwise it wouldn't be really open.
On top of that it's a big moral question who decides what a "good purpose" is?

You might be interested to know that there have been failed attempts to include such a clause in Open Source projects. Some more info on that:
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Samana Johann #6
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Appreciation that Ach feels "touched" a little.

The "problem" isn't at that point, but at the fantastic believe that things are (could ever be) "open" or "free", of cause it would require to give up the "open/free" lie at first place.

My person could not sleep well if approving harmful use of his sacrifices or that such would be used for gain (lose of another).

Looks like a huge amount of people are well caught by Mara.

How ever, without any wish or intention to burden the community much with such and let anyone go where he/she thinks that it is well for them, would there be any possibility for such? Not sure, possible a cast off old edition, traders don't need to fear lose by "only for good"?

It's how ever impossible that people sticking to moral seriously could ever consciously contribute to "open/free".

"licence", in and of itself, is already an invitation to view things wrong and what another might made out of such and such kind of gift, that of cource is the heirs thing, for who could ever force another to either good or bad.

As for the "open/free" statement, it's clear ones part on it, what ever others might made.

Enought. My person thinks this all is not wished at all here by some and of cource you may censure and delete this here all as you wish and feel good with it.
This post was edited on 2019-04-17, 11:12 by andi.
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